tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1471857416619574489.post6906379604737407197..comments2024-03-15T07:55:23.083-07:00Comments on Not Another Music History Cliché!: Did Stravinsky's The Rite of Spring incite a riot at its premiere?Linda Shaver-Gleasonhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/18113845749216374555noreply@blogger.comBlogger10125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1471857416619574489.post-39235287348579184982019-05-20T08:07:53.232-07:002019-05-20T08:07:53.232-07:00Tamara Levitz, “Racism at The Rite,” in The Rite o...Tamara Levitz, “Racism at The Rite,” in The Rite of Spring at 100, edited by Severine Neff, Maureen Carr, and Gretchen Horlacher with John Reef (Bloomington, IN: Indiana University Press, 2017).Sam Dorfhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/01033313732292325723noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1471857416619574489.post-10566332520479419352019-02-20T07:13:42.555-08:002019-02-20T07:13:42.555-08:00You should be able to get a copy at your local lib...You should be able to get a copy at your local library, or through interlibrary loan.Unknownhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/11221867422910138676noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1471857416619574489.post-61385431755019062552019-02-12T06:01:13.348-08:002019-02-12T06:01:13.348-08:00Can I read Tamara Levitz's paper somewhere?Can I read Tamara Levitz's paper somewhere?Csabai Mátéhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/03011904913080128511noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1471857416619574489.post-33997419298545019822019-02-10T17:43:06.659-08:002019-02-10T17:43:06.659-08:00Hello Linda, following on from your post about you...Hello Linda, following on from your post about you being cited in Wikipedia: I Googled “Carl Van Vechten” and “beat rhymically” and found on Googlebooks a book titled “The letters of Gertrude Stein and Carl Van Vechten 1913-1946”. Vechten had wriiten in 1915 that he attended the opening night of the Rite, but in a letter to Stein in 1916 he admitted that he actually attended the second night, among other alterations! Kim Beisselhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/14470045261918100631noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1471857416619574489.post-20128671858771027462018-12-02T08:36:51.575-08:002018-12-02T08:36:51.575-08:00Whiy is it ill-informed? Seems to me its a creati...Whiy is it ill-informed? Seems to me its a creative and challenging of old forms by using new forms. That often advances an art form. It is a fantasy dance about a fantasy event occurring in a fantasy location, accompanied by strange new music. I am good with that. WEF400https://www.blogger.com/profile/09780962578403305849noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1471857416619574489.post-80640029271460269602018-07-11T12:59:07.359-07:002018-07-11T12:59:07.359-07:00I have two reasons to want a time machine back to ...I have two reasons to want a time machine back to the Rite premiere. One, to see the choreography. Two, to hear just how badly, or well, the orchestra played.Lisa Hirschhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/14014924958428072675noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1471857416619574489.post-6962581752561887832018-06-26T09:33:33.110-07:002018-06-26T09:33:33.110-07:00One of the discussions on Facebook after this post...One of the discussions on Facebook after this post went up was a complaint that musicologists are ignorant of dance scholarship. That's a valid criticism--it's a huge blind spot in our field, and it really shouldn't be that way. If you have any suggestions for articles, books, or scholars to consult, maybe we can have a revised, more informed version in the future.Linda Shaver-Gleasonhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/18113845749216374555noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1471857416619574489.post-25435347485597318162018-06-21T07:04:08.548-07:002018-06-21T07:04:08.548-07:00the dance is based way more on anti ballet gesture...the dance is based way more on anti ballet gestures. take the constant use of toes in instead of out. this doesn't occur in any peasant dance. this is all made up and ill informed. Kraig Gradyhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/04234783065045199904noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1471857416619574489.post-9897946979078870622018-06-19T13:44:31.946-07:002018-06-19T13:44:31.946-07:00Thank you for pointing out the story behind the im...Thank you for pointing out the story behind the image! I tried to use the one commonly associated with <i>The Rite</i>, but I couldn't get a clear indication of whether I'd have permission to use it, so I went with one that where the permissions were more straightforward. After all, as the caption said, what's depicted definitely didn't happen at the premiere of <i>The Rite</i>!<br /><br />One of my readers also pointed out the connection between the "scandal concert" and reception of <i>The Rite</i>. But yes, again, thank you for the clarification.<br /><br />I'm considering doing a follow-up post at some point about other musical riots, with maybe a simple "Yes/No" as to whether they happened. For most, it's going to be yes! But it's interesting that, for all the REAL riots/skirmishes that have happened in music history (involving some not-so-unknown composers, even!), the most famous one is the one that didn't happen.Linda Shaver-Gleasonhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/18113845749216374555noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1471857416619574489.post-10403490758745346122018-06-19T07:18:33.845-07:002018-06-19T07:18:33.845-07:00The volume that includes Tamara Levitz’s engaging ...The volume that includes Tamara Levitz’s engaging study is an achievement whose other contributions are equally valuable. I hope, Linda, that you will not think me churlish in pointing out that the image appearing in your essay is excerpted from a cartoon from the Vienna newspaper 'Die Zeit' referring to a far more contentious contemporary event: the so-called “scandal concert” conducted by Arnold Schoenberg (who appears in the cartoon) on March 31, 1913, at the city’s Musikverein. On that occasion, the disruption was real enough to force the concert to be stopped (preventing the playing of Mahler’s 'Kindertotenlieder' following Berg’s 'Altenberglieder'). Worth contemplating is the possibility that reportage of the event may have been lurking in the background of journalistic responses to Stravinsky’s ballet. The earlier fiasco was certainly known in Paris; the Vienna correspondent for the 'Revue musicale S.I.M.' (by E. W., likely Egon Wellesz) wrote a brief report (“Pugilism at the Concert”) that reads in part (in my rough translation): “It was a lovely scandal show! Supporters and opponents of the young school, animated by an equally bellicose mood, and determined to give this demonstration all the character of a dazzling demonstration, came to blows. There were punches and slaps. We are expecting many duels.” At this cultural moment, it was common in Paris to connect the names of Schoenberg and Stravinsky since, less than a month after the premiere of 'Le sacre', a concert took place that included the prelude to the ballet’s second tableau and the final scene from part one of 'Gurrelieder'. Readers can easily find the complete cartoon (“The Next Vienna Schoenberg Concert”) – worth viewing as it shows a supine Schubert at the bottom of the melee.<br />Scott Messinghttps://www.alma.edu/live/profiles/106-scott-messingnoreply@blogger.com